No Apologies: Why Israel Doesn't Need Your Approval To Defend Itself | Dan Schueftan

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Overview Professor Dan Schueftan argues that Israel’s survival depends on combining an open, pluralistic society at home with overwhelming defensive strength against determined regional enemies. In his view, Israel’s resilience, demographic confidence, technological capacity, and willingness to use force compensate for diplomatic isolation and unreliable external partners. The interview also presents a broader thesis: Middle Eastern conflicts cannot be understood through Western assumptions that international institutions, public opinion, or negotiated solutions will resolve them. Schueftan says Israel should pursue “responses” that limit damage and exploit opportunities rather than expect permanent solutions. - Relevant source moment: [01:53]–[02:23], where Schueftan identifies Israeli social resilience and military willingness as the country’s decisive combination. Main argument Schueftan’s causal chain is that Israel faces a violent and unstable region in which deterrence is the precondition for peace. Arab governments may cooperate with Israel when they need its protection or technology, but their domestic public opinion often prevents openly friendly relations. Therefore, he argues, Israel must remain strong enough that adversaries and regional governments fear the consequences of attacking it. He links this security posture to Israel’s internal structure: national solidarity supports democracy, social welfare, and individual rights; military service integrates citizens from different backgrounds; and a strong family culture produces demographic confidence. His preferred model is “Athens and Sparta”—a soft, open society internally and a hard, determined power externally. Schueftan also argues that Western governments repeatedly misread political cultures. He distinguishes between political culture and biology, acknowledging that societies can change, but warns that change can move backward as well as forward. His strategic method is therefore historical and probabilistic: identify persistent constraints, avoid assuming that every problem has a solution, and choose the least damaging available response. - Relevant source moment: [21:44]–[22:48], where he contrasts “problem-solution” thinking with strategic damage control and opportunity-seeking. Evidence and examples Dan Schueftan uses several historical cases to support his analysis: - Post-1973 Israel: After the Yom Kippur War, many Israelis believed the Arab world had gained the strategic advantage. Schueftan says he predicted that Israel’s social and technological advantages would widen the gap over time, and he treats subsequent Israeli strength as support for that prediction [16:32]–[18:26].

- The Oslo process: He says he warned Yitzhak Rabin that the Oslo agreements were unlikely to produce peace because the underlying political conditions were absent [20:09]–[21:18]. - The Arab Spring and Libya: Schueftan argues that removing authoritarian leaders did not automatically produce stable or liberal societies. Libya, in his account, became worse after Muammar Gaddafi, supporting his view that social and political structures matter more than leadership alone [18:41]–[19:54]. - Jordan and Egypt: He presents peace or cooperation with Israel as driven largely by strategic necessity. Jordan depends on Israel’s strength and water assistance, while Egypt shares important interests with Israel but is constrained by hostile public opinion and domestic weakness [26:55]–[31:44]. - Turkey and Indonesia: Indonesia is offered as an example of a Muslim-majority country moving toward a more open political culture, while Turkey under Recep Tayyip Erdoğan represents a reversal of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’s secular modernization [32:16]–[34:32] and [42:59]–[46:47]. - Israel’s military and society: Schueftan describes the Israel Defense Forces as both a military and a social institution that integrates citizens across ethnic and religious backgrounds. He also points to growing participation in pre-military training and to the rapid reorganization of the army after its failure on October 7 [01:21:43]–[01:25:35]. - Demography: He claims that Israel has unusually high birth rates for a prosperous Western society and that Israel is approaching a majority of the world’s Jewish population [01:03:21]–[01:03:59]. These demographic claims are central to his argument but are presented without supporting data in the interview. Schueftan treats Israel’s military technology, including the Arrow air-defense system, as evidence that the country is not merely dependent on Western protection but contributes strategically to the broader Western security system [01:15:10]–[01:17:23]. He also claims that Israel’s deterrent reputation allows moderate Arab governments to resist radicals without openly praising Israel. - Relevant source moment: [01:09:43]–[01:11:17], where he explains how Arab leaders may use fear of Israeli retaliation to restrain radical groups. Distinctive insights The most distinctive idea is that peace in the Middle East may depend less on mutual affection than on credible fear. Schueftan does not describe deterrence as morally attractive; he presents it as the least catastrophic option in a region where weakness can invite aggression. His formulation is that the available choices are often “repulsive and catastrophic,” so strategy should select the repulsive option to avoid the catastrophic one [01:01:01]–[01:01:31].

A second insight is that political behavior cannot be inferred solely from bilateral interests. Jordan may need Israel while publicly condemning it; Egypt may share strategic interests with Israel while being unable to act on them; and Arab leaders may make decisions to survive domestic opinion rather than to maximize national welfare. This helps explain why formal cooperation and public hostility can coexist. A third insight is that Israel’s military is presented as a nation-building institution rather than only a defense organization. In Schueftan’s account, compulsory service creates contact among otherwise separate communities and helps sustain a common Israeli identity. This is also why he regards the ultra-Orthodox community’s avoidance of military service as a social and political issue, not merely a military one [01:23:21]–[01:24:21]. Predictions and conditions Schueftan makes several forward-looking claims: - Israel will remain strategically resilient because of its technology, social cohesion, demographic trends, and willingness to defend itself. - Turkey will become a major regional danger through its ambitions in the Eastern Mediterranean, Syria, Gaza, trade routes, energy, cyber infrastructure, and support for Muslim Brotherhood movements [00:47:46]–[00:58:55]. - American support may become less dependable, but the United States will still need Israel because Israel confronts radical forces that could otherwise threaten American interests [01:12:30]–[01:14:20]. - Jewish communal life in Europe and Australia will largely disappear, while Jewish identity in the United States will decline over roughly one generation through assimilation, low fertility, and weakening identification [01:26:19]–[01:29:31]. These forecasts would be weakened by evidence of durable political moderation in Arab societies, sustained cooperation between Turkey and Israel’s regional partners, a major improvement in Egypt’s state capacity, or continued strength in Jewish identity and family formation outside Israel. They would also be weakened if Israel’s internal polarization, demographic divisions, or dependence on American weapons significantly reduced its resilience. - Relevant source moment: [01:26:19]–[01:29:31], where Schueftan predicts the decline of Jewish communal life outside Israel. Practical implications The practical lessons Schueftan explicitly draws are strategic rather than personal. Governments should distinguish between problems that can be solved and problems that require long-term management; prepare for unintended consequences; and judge policies by whether they reduce future danger, not only by whether they produce immediate humanitarian or diplomatic reassurance. For Israel, his implications are to preserve military superiority, maintain domestic pluralism, strengthen national cohesion, distinguish between Arab actors that can accept responsibility and those committed to Israel’s destruction, and avoid allowing international criticism to determine essential security decisions.

He also argues that Israel should maintain relationships with the United States while preparing for periods of less favorable American policy. For Western policymakers, his lesson is to analyze political cultures historically and concretely rather than assume that elections, economic aid, or engagement will produce liberal outcomes. He specifically warns against treating humanitarian concessions or diplomatic recognition as inherently stabilizing when they may give stronger actors time and resources to prepare for later conflict [00:59:16]–[01:00:30]. Caveats and open questions The interview is highly assertive and often uses sweeping categories such as “the West,” “the Arabs,” “the radicals,” and “the barbarians.” Those formulations express Schueftan’s worldview, but they risk obscuring differences among states, movements, social classes, religious traditions, and individual citizens. His argument would require more comparative evidence to establish that broad regional cultures, rather than institutions, leadership choices, economic conditions, foreign intervention, or specific historical events, are the primary causes of political outcomes. Several important claims are asserted rather than demonstrated. These include the scale of Israel’s civilian-protection efforts, the motives of Arab publics, the political influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, the extent of Turkish radicalization in Germany, demographic comparisons, and the claim that Israel’s conduct in Gaza represents an unprecedented effort to minimize civilian harm. The interview does not provide independent data, counterexamples, or sustained discussion of civilian costs and competing interpretations of Israel’s military actions. The argument also leaves open a central moral and strategic question: how can a state preserve an open society while relying on permanent mobilization, coercive power, and a reputation for ruthlessness? Schueftan recognizes this tension but offers a governing principle—“Athens at home, Sparta abroad”—rather than a detailed institutional safeguard against abuse or escalation. Key takeaways Schueftan’s central claim is that Israel’s security depends on resilience, deterrence, demographic confidence, and strategic independence more than on international approval. He sees the region as governed by power, domestic political constraints, and long historical patterns that diplomacy alone cannot overcome. His strongest practical lesson is to replace the search for perfect solutions with disciplined damage control: understand the actors’ incentives, distinguish genuine partners from temporary collaborators, prepare for political reversals, and preserve the internal openness that gives a society the capacity to defend itself. The main uncertainty is whether his broad cultural diagnosis is more explanatory than alternative accounts centered on institutions, leadership, economics, foreign intervention, or the consequences of military policy. The interview offers a coherent strategic framework, but many of its factual claims remain dependent on evidence not supplied in the conversation.