Who are 'everywhere millionaires' and how does the tax code benefit them?
Owen Zidar says “everywhere millionaires” are ordinary Americans who became extremely wealthy by running private companies. He says there are more than three million of them, each with at least $5 million in net worth, and that their average wealth is $25 million. Eric Zwick explains that pass-through companies do not pay tax at the corporate level; their income passes through to owners, who pay tax on individual returns.
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Zidar describes “everywhere millionaires” as ordinary Americans who became extremely wealthy by running private companies, with more than three million people worth at least $5 million and average wealth of $25 million. Zwick explains that pass-through firms do not pay corporate-level tax; income passes to owners’ individual returns. The discussion says owners can often take profits rather than wages, avoiding payroll and other taxes, may qualify for a pass-through deduction, and can benefit from capital-gains and inheritance rules. The episode also discusses reforms.
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Owen Zidar describes “Everywhere Millionaires” as ordinary Americans who became extremely wealthy by running private companies, in the passage beginning around 3: 32. (Source 0)
Play exact moment · 3:35Zidar says they number more than three million, each with a net worth of at least $5 million, and an average wealth of $25 million, at 3: 39–3: 46. (Source 1)
Play exact moment · 3:39Eric Zwick explains that pass-through companies do not pay tax at the corporate level; instead their income passes through to the owners, who pay individual income tax, at 9: 38–10: 06
Play exact moment · 9:58Main points
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Owen Zidar describes “Everywhere Millionaires” as ordinary Americans who became extremely wealthy by running private companies, in the passage beginning around 3: 32. (Source 0)
Zidar says they number more than three million, each with a net worth of at least $5 million, and an average wealth of $25 million, at 3: 39–3: 46. (Source 1)
Eric Zwick explains that pass-through companies do not pay tax at the corporate level; instead their income passes through to the owners, who pay individual income tax, at 9: 38–10: 06. (Source 2)
Later in the transcript, a guest says private-company owners may receive most income as profits rather than wages because the tax code favors that type of income. (Source 3)
The same passage says owners do not pay payroll taxes on that profit income and avoid an Affordable Care Act surcharge and the net investment income tax on that income. (Sources 4; 5)
Owen Zidar says a qualified pass-through owner may pay less than 30% instead of the 37% top rate, at about 14: 00–14: 04. (Source 6)
The transcript later says owners may pay lower capital-gains rates when selling a company and, in some cases, use trusts and valuation strategies to avoid estate tax and obtain a step-up in basis when wealth transfers to the next generation. (Source 7)
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Overview
Owen Zidar says “everywhere millionaires” are ordinary Americans who became extremely wealthy by running private companies. He says there are more than three million of them, each with at least $5 million in net worth, and that their average wealth is $25 million.
Eric Zwick explains that pass-through companies do not pay tax at the corporate level; their income passes through to owners, who pay tax on individual returns.
Summary 2
The discussion says the tax code favors some private-business income because owners may receive profits rather than wages, avoid payroll taxes and other taxes on that income, qualify for a pass-through deduction, pay capital-gains rates on sale, and in some cases use trusts, valuation strategies and step-up in basis rules when transferring wealth. The episode also discusses policy responses.
Zidar mentions addressing loopholes while preserving investment incentives and reducing regulatory barriers to competition; Zwick says he supports Zidar’s proposals and adds ideas involving workers, noncompetes and the political system.
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